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Saying Peace Out To Worry with Lauren Graham - Day 29 #31DaysOfBlogging

One of the things we say a lot on our social media is “We’re all in this together.” We say it a lot because we genuinely mean it — we are all on this crazy journey of life together and anything we learn along the way that might be helpful to you, we want to share it. We love being inspired by people…especially people who are in the entertainment world. People who have no ego or air about them…and when we meet these people, we want to share them with you. You are our people. You are our tribe. You are our community.

So….earlier this year, we asked our friend Lauren Graham if she would be willing to share a conversation with us for our podcast community, and you guys: SHE SAID YES.

This podcast interview with Lauren was a dream come true interview for us, and also one of our most popular of the season. We talked about a lot of things, but one important topic we covered was self-esteem, which is why we named the episode something that Lauren said during the interview, “Why Can’t We All Just Enjoy Ourselves More.” AMEN, y’all, AMEN.

Another one of our favorite things about Lauren is that she has this outlook on life that is one we aspire to have. It is basically summed up in the title of her latest book, In Conclusion, Don’t Worry About It. See, there are these seasons in life that we all face...forks in the road we will all come to, where we really don’t know if there’s anything good up ahead, which way we should go, or what the future may hold.

In fact, these seasons, we have found, seem to appear far more often than we’d like them to. We can’t control them, we can’t wish them away, but we can do one thing: We can look at them positively, with hope, instead of fear or dread. We can DECIDE not to worry about what may or may not be around the next corner, and just take the next step that is in front of us.

We always leave our conversations with Lauren feeling a little more positive and hopeful, and a little more relaxed about whatever is up ahead of us. That is the kind of person we can all benefit from being around, #AMIRIGHT? We hope you feel this way too when you hear this episode…while either enjoying it again, or for the first time, if you haven’t heard it yet.

And remember, worrying about things doesn’t help, so you might as well quit it. (Here’s a song of ours to cheer you on in this whole venture.)

Tomorrow we have a SURPRISE for you….

xo

Jill and Kate

Chatting with Hunter Hayes - Day 28 #31DaysofBlogging

We may have written a song called Nashville recently that may give the false idea that we dislike the city in some way. In all truth, Nashville is a magical place. It is a one of a kind, special, incredible town filled with talented, generous, and interesting people. It is full of a “You never know what could happen” attitude, and we credit our willingness to go find out what could happen in large part to that attitude that is so felt there.

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Today we want to tell you about a magical place in Nashville called The Bluebird Cafe.

The Bluebird Cafe is a place for songwriters. They have 2 shows per night, and songwriters sit in chairs in the middle of this tiny (yet magical) venue and take turns telling the stories behind the songs they have written. Audience members are sitting all around the songwriters making it quite intimate. It’s been an iconic venue for a long time, but since the TV show Nashville aired, its popularity skyrocketed. Most shows sell out in under 5 minutes and there can be lines seen halfway down the block on any given day -- people just waiting for any last minute available tickets.

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We’ve had the privilege of playing there a few times, and each time we feel the magnitude of what an honor it is to be able to share our songs in the same spot where so many of our song writing heroes have sat and shared theirs.

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Not too long ago, our friend and super talented pal, David Bradley asked us to do a round with him and Hunter Hayes. We were pumped! We arrived and got caught up with both of them, and as we were chatting, Hunter asked us what we’d been up to. We told him about the podcast and the idea that we were exploring of talking about “What to do when life doesn’t go the way you planned it.” He was like, “I love that idea -- I’d love to talk to you guys about that on your podcast sometime.” SO THAT WAS AWESOME!

So, we played the round -- which was so much fun. Honestly...if we could do that show every night of the week, we’d be happy. And a few weeks later we went to Hunter’s house and recorded THIS episode. It was one of our favorite conversations because Hunter doesn’t hold back talking about the hard parts of life and the music industry. It’s a MUST listen.

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We just want to remind you, in case you are like thinking we have all of these amazing guests planned out and in our pockets ahead of time, we don’t. We want to remind you that sometimes the coolest things in life JUST HAPPEN when you say yes.

So, maybe you need a sign right now that you need to say yes to some opportunity or invitation you have in front of you, and maybe this is your sign, us telling you that you should just DO IT. You don’t know who you may meet, where you might end up, or what door might be opened just from making one small move.

Tomorrow we’ll tell you about interviewing one of our favorite authors who also happens to be a TV/movie/broadway star.

Hope you guys are liking the blogging as much as we are!

xo

J&K

Wickedly Powerful Words - Day 11 #31DaysOfBlogging

Remember a few days ago we told you about the DREAM BIG event that we went to in Nashville in March? Well we met a new friend there, Ginna Claire Mason, and her story blew us away. She grew up dreaming of playing Glinda the Good Witch in Wicked the musical on Broadway. When she was a kid, she saw the play and told her dad she was going to do that someday.

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GUYS, as if we need more proof, but WORDS HAVE POWER.

When we met Ginna Claire this year, she was, you guessed it, starring as Glinda on Broadway’s National Tour of Wicked. After we met her in Nashville, we started following her journey on Instagram and there was just something about her that drew us to her. She’s a giant LIGHT in this sometimes dark world, and we wanted to know her better. We also wanted you guys to know her better.

So we asked if she and Mary Kate Morissey, Ginna Claire’s BFF and the other star of Wicked (She plays Elphaba and is AMAZING) would be guests on our podcast. They are THE BEST and said yes, so we walkabouted our way right down to Tulsa to see them perform and interview them for our show. This fabulous duo has charisma for DAYS and they brought such wisdom and insight when we sat down and chatted with them in their dressing room before the show.

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We talked about friendship, what life is like on the road, living your literal dream, breaking up with your own life, and navigating the unknowns in life.

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We could keep telling you about this interview, (one of our most POPULAR shows of the season) or you could just go listen to it right now. Click here.

We feel so lucky to meet the people we get to meet on these journeys of ours. Ginna Claire and Mary Kate were two people we met this year very unexpectedly, and we could not be more grateful for their friendship and for all the wisdom we gleaned from them through this interview.

Tomorrow we’re going to circle back to what we learned from getting fired over someone calling Kate “HUGE” and how we are still learning from this experience.

Hope you have a wickedly wonderful Tuesday.

Hugs to you,

J&K

Behind The Scenes with Podcast Guests - Day 6 #31DaysOfBlogging

When we decided to start our podcast, we made a “dream list” of guests we would love to have on the show to interview. GUYS, almost all of them said YES! We only have a few left on our original list that we still would love to have on the show, but we realized we need to UPDATE THE LIST with some new dream guests!

Honestly though, each and every one of these guests were amazing to have on the show.  One thing we loved is that we did each and every interview IN REAL LIFE. That’s pretty rare for podcasts these days. That was part of the beauty of the ability to travel this year. We joined people in their living rooms, dressing rooms, basements, offices….and sometimes in whatever hotel or Airbnb we were staying in at the time.

We thought it would be fun to give you a little bit more of a behind the scenes peek into some of the interviews we were fortunate to have this season. Here’s a little tidbit we remember that we think you might enjoy.

Ben Higgins

The night before the interview, we went to Ben’s coffee company’s (Generous Coffee) launch party. We had SO MUCH fun at the event and may or may not have celebrated with a few margaritas that may or may not have ended at a karaoke bar singing karaoke with some new friends. This was good times, sunshine. Yet, we did not make it to bed until ummm after 3:00AM, and the margaritas, along with the altitude, along with very little sleep, made it a wee bit of a rough morning for the ‘ole J&K. We held it together and decided that the perfect thing to bring to a morning podcast interview were DONUTS! So, we took an Uber to a donut shop, then to Ben’s house, and he made us some of the best coffee (thank you Generous Coffee) ever. That totally cured us from our somewhat hungover state, and we had some good laughs about it on the episode, which you can hear here. (Also, shout out to Mr. Higgins for being our first ever podcast guest. He set the bar for sure.)


Ally Fallon

Something funny about Ally’s episode is that we were in Nashville at an apartment that we were subletting, and Ally and our other friend Betsy came over — we got talking and catching up so much that we almost missed our window of recording! Ally had SUCH WISDOM about life and comparison — it’s still something we think about frequently. She is just so great, and her new book is a MUST READ. You can hear her episode here.


Whitney English

We always have epic times with Whitney. She’s a friend of ours that adventures with us and we love that about her. She is always down to road trip, meet up at some conference or event, or just hang out wherever and talk about the deep things in life. After this episode, we had some amazing bacon at First Watch that had pepper and maple syrup, and for some reason, that bacon really sticks out when we think about this episode. HA! Whitney is wise, deep, and one of the most genuine people we know. Listen to her episode here.

Charles Esten

This episode was recorded at Chip’s house in his basement. We are such big fans of Chip’s whole family. When we recorded this episode, Chip’s mom was there visiting for his big Opry show that was the next day. We were so grateful he still took the time to chat with us even though he had so much going on. He’s just such a great human, you guys. Before the episode, we chatted in Chip’s kitchen with his wife Patty and his mom, and we talked a lot about the 4 Things Totes that we had with us, discussing how hard it is to choose 4 words to put on those bags! Listen to our episode with Chip here!


Miles Adcox

We headed out to Onsite in somewhat rural Tennessee to meet up with Miles to record this episode. We met him at his office and then drove over to a separate building adjacent to the Onsite property. Well, it’s only about a 2 minute drive, but there was a truck that had caught on fire right by the entrance to the property. It was scary to see! People were there, keeping it under control, but we took a long way around to go record the podcast, and on our way back, we passed the truck again and it was completely burned out. Luckily no one was hurt, but it was quite a sight. Not a great day for that truck driver. Miles shared his wisdom with us and you don’t want to miss this conversation.


Hunter Hayes

We arrived at Hunter’s house in Nashville with a huge greeting from his adorable dogs. Guys, they stole the show. They wanted to hang with us and be right in the mix. At one point, one was right up on the couch with us...we think she wanted to share about what she did when life didn’t go the way she planned! Hunter is one of the most down to earth genuine guys around, and his dogs are pretty darn cute too. Listen to his episode here.


Ginna Claire Mason and Mary Kate Morrissey

This was our first backstage interview of the season, and the ambiance was just so incredible. The girls had their dressing rooms so magically decorated and they were just THE best hosts. They had wine and popcorn for us all (coconut water for them) and we felt right at home. From the minute we walked in the stage door, these girls felt like old long lost friends. MK gave us a little stuffed avocado (yes, it sounds weird but true) that we have brought with us everywhere since. These girls are THE BEST. Listen here.

Jann Arden

Before we recorded with Jann, she asked us to come up and sing Nashville during her show that night. We went and soundchecked and then came back to her dressing room to record the episode. We laughed and laughed because the toilet kept running in the bathroom next door. Jann is just so funny and we were hoping we could keep it together. Her dog Midi joined us for the episode too. Our conversation with Jann was like many conversations we’ve had with her before, but we were lucky enough to record this one so we can have it forever. Love her so much. Listen to Jann’s episode here.

You Just Need To START - Day 2 #31DaysofBlogging

Welcome back! Last summer when we decided it was time for a BIG change, we knew that it had to be physical and creative. Part of getting “unstuck” for us was setting out to do life-giving things. Travel and talking to people are two life-giving things for both of us.

For years and years we had talked about starting a podcast, but in line with everything else during that season, we felt just stuck enough that we never pulled the trigger on it.

When we decided to sell everything, start a walkabout, and get unstuck, we knew this was just the time to start the podcast we had always dreamed about starting.

There were so many questions to address: What would we talk about? Would we have guests? How would we record it? Could we do this ourselves? Do we have the time? Will we be able to talk that much? Okay, who are we kidding. We knew that at least Kate could talk enough for the both of us to make this work. HAHA. (Jill found her podcast voice too, though.)


We have learned along the way...heck, we are still learning along the way. But here are some of the major things we learned from doing this.

1. Sometimes you just have to START.

You will fail. You will be slow at first. You will like parts of it and not like other parts. Sometimes you’ll feel like a winner and sometimes like a loser. But you will never know if you never try.

2. People are people.

This was the name of our second episode, and it’s been one of our big takeaways from this new adventure in podcasting. We asked some people who we thought would NEVER say yes to being a guest on our show. We thought things like, “They’re too busy. They’re too big for this. They don’t need to do it.”

But guys, people are people, whether they are famous, busy, happy, sad, successful, struggling. People are people. We all share similarities because we’re human. We feel pain, we feel joy, we long for things, and we need each other and each other’s stories.

3. Life doesn’t go the way we plan it, pretty much ever.

This was the question we asked every guest, the topic we tied into each episode, “What to do when life doesn’t go the way you planned.” Guess what? Life doesn’t go the way we plan it, but we have the ability to adjust, choose joy, contentment, peace, and figure out the next step.

This experience creating our podcast has been better than we ever expected. We can’t wait to keep it going, keep learning new things every week, and sharing life with you guys. Thank you for listening, for texting/calling us, and for encouraging us along the way.

Are you needing a little boost to just START something? Click here to listen to the VERY FIRST episode we EVER recorded. It might just be the motivation you need to start. Leave a comment and let us know what you’re trying…we love hearing your ideas and adventures. We really believe that once you put action behind something, things just start to unfold.

Tomorrow we’ll tell you more about the invitation that scared us to death but we knew we had to say a giant YES to.

Love y’all.

J&K

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Pod Goals.

Hey, guys. Jill here. In case you didn’t know, we started a podcast a few weeks ago and we are having such a good time doing it. It’s called “Girls Just Pod To Have Fun”....yes, partly I love doing it because I love saying the name of it. Ha!

But, honestly, I love it. Are you into podcasts? I’ve been into podcasts for a couple years...I was late to the game, I know, but I got to a point where I needed something to listen to on long drives or while working out when music wasn’t doing it for me. I found a few that I liked and then I was HOOKED.

My favorites are mysteries, crime or Dateline-type podcasts. Serial, of course. Dirty John, S-Town, A Killing On The Cape, A Murder on Orchard Street. SUPER LIGHT STUFF! :)

But, really, on a less aggressive note, Oprah’s Soul Sessions, Shauna Niequist’s podcast if you want some inspiration...Strangers if you want some good storytelling, and...Gilmore Guys, if you’re feeling really light-hearted. I COULD GO ON ALL DAY, but I won’t .

Kate and I had talked about hosting our own podcast for a few years, but never really felt like we had a good topic or purpose for one. THEN, we sold everything we owned and totally flipped our lives upside down and decided, what a perfect time!

If you haven’t been listening, you can binge 5 episodes right now. We take you with us from Nashville to Vermont to New York To Colorado to Los Angeles, back to Nashville again and beyond. You can hear us talk to Ben Higgins (what up Bachelor nation), Ally Fallon (This will inspire the crap out of you) and of course, Kate and I talk to each other like it’s our job when we don’t have guests on with us. We tell you the story of how we got to different points in our career and the emotions we’ve encountered along the way. Also, we like to keep it somewhat light, so we talk about things like revolving doors, sushi, and lots of wine. *cheers*

Tomorrow, it’s all about me! (?!) Kate took over the microphone and used her hosting skills to ask me all the questions you could ever want to know about me. What would I bring to a deserted island? What song made me fall in love with music? Who is my celebrity crush? I know you are dying to know the answers to these riveting questions. Well, tomorrow, you can find out.  

Check it out and thanks for letting us make our dream of being podcast hosts a reality.

( PS: If you don't have Apple Podcasts or iTunes, you can listen at www.jillandkate.com/girlsjustpodtohavefun )

PEACE!

-Jill

Big News. Big Changes.

Hi friends!


How are you? We are doing just fine--thanks for asking :) No really...we are and we have some major news for you. We want to share it with you...and it’s finally time. Hoo-freaking-ray!

Have you ever felt stuck? Like, really stuckkkkkk. Not a temporary “funk-stuck”---but in a really, really, thick stuck-ness? (Very technical term.) Well, if you’ve ever had that feeling, we feel ya. Cause that’s where we’ve been. And I hesitate to say “been” like it’s past tense...because we are still kind of in that...but we are taking active steps towards getting unstuck, like woah, and we’re going to tell you what that means.

Last year we wrote an eBook about finding inspiration and one of the exercises we suggested is to “change up your routine or shake things up” when you’re feeling stuck. So, being people who don’t like to give advice unless we’re willing to take it, we did. Like, we reallllllllly did. You ready for this? Here’s the short story:

  1. Jill sold her house in Nashville where we both were living.
  2. We sold almost ALL of our belongings.
  3. We are going on an adventure (and you’re coming with us. Please don’t leave us. Ha!)

WHAT? Have you guys lost your ever-loving minds? I’m envisioning your brains squealing to a halting stop right about now. Say what? Yup. We did it guys. Sold every piece of furniture. Sold every piece of artwork except for one painting. Had a garage sale. Gave approximately 2 full car loads to Goodwill. We each kept a few bins of “keepsake memorabilia” in storage, but other than that, we are FREE. We are now each traveling with one suitcase, carry-on roller bag, a backpack, and a purse (and of course our guitars!). And it feels amazing. So freeeeee! We’ve really taken the minimalism thing to the next level...haha! (Thanks Marie Kondo)

Now, let’s back up to how we got to this decision.

In May of this year we recorded some acoustic covers. We had such a good time recording our Acoustic Covers Vol 1 album in 2014, that we decided to do more. Our awesome licensing company in LA was also excited about having these new songs to pitch for TV/Film because covers are SO HOT RIGHT NOW...or so sayeth the cool kids.

So, we decided the theme was going to be “throwbacks” and we sat down to try and make some of these favorite songs our own. We started with the upbeat, life-giving anthem by Cyndi Lauper: Girls Just Want To Have Fun! We began messing around with the song, and low and behold, this EPICALLY sad, slow, tear-at-your-heart, make-you-refill-your-wine-glass-5-times version comes out. We sort of just looked at each other with blank stares. Then there were a few tears. Because we had this realization: we weren’t having any fun anymore.

We wanted to...but we just weren’t. We still knew that we loved music. That we loved songs. We loved writing. Singing. Harmony. Melody. The way music just reaches down deep inside of you...we still loved it...but we weren’t having any FUN anymore. In all of the hustle and bustle...the trying to make it work...we lost the element of fun. It was work. It was struggle.  And if you know us at all or have been following us for any amount of time, you know that we LOVE fun. Fun is life, guys. And we just weren’t having any. We wanted the lighthearted, the laughter, the spontaneous....and it just wasn’t happening.

The last few years have been a hard blur of sorts. We lost one of our dearest to cancer. We lost jobs. We lost money. Loss was a common theme. Not sure what it was, but we just couldn’t seem to get over the hump of stuck-ness. However, we weren’t ready to be done either.

We DEFINITELY don’t feel like it’s over. So don’t go thinking this is a “the end” blog because we know and we hope you know: the only way to fail is to quit and we have about ZERO plans of quitting so...yeah. Just needed to put that out there :) People like you have kept us going and keep us going. Your emails, meeting you at shows, hearing you respond and relate to our songs and our blogs. You guys bring meaning to us and inspire us to keep making music, writing, and sharing life with you guys. 

We’ve had an incredible career so far and we are honestly so grateful...and we’ve definitely had bouts of success. It’s not like we’ve totally failed. But, the last couple years have been so stressful...and mostly stressful because we’ve been trying to make money from music and like any indie musician will tell you, it’s tough. For the past couple years we have invested, invested, invested in every aspect...and we have seen the return on investment in almost every area, except for financially. And we’re still believing that one day that will turn around--we 100% believe that we will make livings off of our music and songwriting, etc. But right now, it’s not happening. We’ve been so fortunate to have other awesome jobs to help us pay the bills, and we still do.

Anyway, we just sort of found ourselves in this spot where we’d played the big stages, traveled the world, lived the big dream...but also, nannied, eaten beans and rice, and gone into debt from making investments in our career. We invested everything we had and got to a point where we had to decide. Stop? Change? Quit? Keep going hoping for the best? 

So, one day in June, Jill said out of the blue: what if I sell my house and we can pay off some bills, chase some fun, find some inspiration, and kick-off a new season. We needed to get unstuck and shake things up. Chase the things that are life-giving. My immediate answer was: YES. And so twenty-something odd days later, the house was on the market and 10 days after that, it sold. Sayyyyy whaaaaaaat? SOLD.

Honestly, and this is hard to say, but neither one of us thought that life would turn out like this. At this point in our lives we both thought we’d have songs on the radio, be touring more, be winning Grammys (hello 7th grade dream), have “established” careers and so on. And on personal levels, we thought maybe we’d each have awesome husbands right now...maybe have each had some kiddos….but that’s just not the way things have turned out. And of course we struggle with comparing our lives to our friends, peers, and strangers our age. 

But, life doesn’t always go the way you think it’s going to go and maybe you’re reading this also thinking that you thought you’d be somewhere else or life would look differently. And you know what...that’s okay. Why? Because we’re all in this together. And it’s never too late. Ever. And where we are, and where you are, in life, is right where we’re supposed to be. We truly believe and trust that this is true. We also believe it’s possible to make change. Don’t believe the lie that says you’re stuck, it’s over, things will never change, etc. It’s just not true.

One thing that we’ve talked about FOR YEARS and you all have told us to do FOR YEARS, we are finally going to do. This new adventure season is the perfect time to do it. Friends, will you go on this adventure with us?

We give you: GIRLS JUST POD TO HAVE FUN (coming this fall!)

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Ahhhh that’s right. (Also, doesn’t everybody have a podcast now?) This is our podcast about fun and what to do with life when it hasn’t turned out the way you thought it would. This podcast will be following our journey (it’ll be a journey because we really don’t have many plans yet or know the outcome of anything) back to finding the FUN in life....interviewing our fun friends, having serious talks and ridiculous talks...all while recording it for you.

Here’s something we talk about in our first episode, but it’s crazy you guys. When you move, movement happens. Change begets change. The day after we decided to sell Jill’s house and go on this adventure, we had told a total of zero people. But, literally the day after our decision, our phones both buzzed with a text from our friend Luke who is a ridiculously talented producer. His text said he wanted to produce 4 songs for us and that he had a hole in his schedule freeing him up to work most of August and September. We’ve been wanting to work with him for ages, but he’s a really busy dude. He’s produced stuff for Walker Hayes, David Kroll and so many other awesome artists. So, we did it. The last 6 weeks before closing on the house we recorded 4 new songs! We made HAVING FUN a priority and IT WAS SO FUN. (Scroll down to the bottom of this blog to see more pics from the studio.)

So, we are also going to be releasing NEW MUSIC too. It might be those 4 songs or we might go back and record a few more, but really...those 4 are almost done and we think you are going to love them. We LOVE them.

So, our first stop on this new adventure is New England. Because, obviously. New England is where we met and started this whole shindig circa 14 years ago. New England is where we both graduated from college. It is also where Jill is a straight-up native and her parents still live in a house that is a quarter-mile from the ocean (all the praise hands!) New England is where some of our best friends still live. So, last Friday, September 29th, we loaded up Jill’s car (mine is staying in Nashville so we have wheels when we’re back) and we hit the road. We drove all day, spent the night in Virginia, and made the rest of the drive Saturday. We literally drove straight to the ocean and it was pitch black, but we had to see it. We had to document the end of a hard, stuck season and feel the 40-degree ocean air fill our lungs with hope, newness, and an excitement down deep in our bones. We took this picture and had to use the flash because it was PITCH BLACK. But look at the excitement on our faces! Look at it, guys. It’s real.

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People have asked us what “our plans” are, and frankly, we don’t have many or any that are set in stone.  Except to be in the moment and to be present as much as possible. To chase the things that are life-giving to us. To experience freedom and joy again. To re-ignite our passion for what we were made to do: sharing stories through making music. When you don't have plans, it leaves room for anything to happen. And we are up for anything. We can't wait to find out what it is.

So there you have it. We told our friend Bob our “plans” (ps. what’s a word for non-planned-plan, cause we need one) and he said, “Oh, it’s what the Australians call a “walkabout.” Yes, perfect. Of course the Aussie’s know what’s up: A walkabout. So we want you to join us on this walkabout for two reasons:

  1. We like you and we’d like the company.

  2. We will test out this theory for you. We will see if you can really get yourself unstuck and turn your life around. Therefore, if it turns out really badly, you can learn from us and not do the same thing...haha. But if it works...it’ll be proof that you can get unstuck and chase fun yourself too.

So, let’s do this thing. Podcast, coming soon. New music, coming soon. FUN, coming soon. Change, coming soon.

Thank you guys for being in this with us. We’re in it with you. Let’s go.

Jill and Kate

First day headed into the studio..

First day headed into the studio..

Working on a song. That's Luke in the middle and  Seth Earnest  who co-produced these songs with Luke. He is a GEM. So creative. So humble. 

Working on a song. That's Luke in the middle and Seth Earnest who co-produced these songs with Luke. He is a GEM. So creative. So humble. 

Jill in her happy place.

Jill in her happy place.

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